Sunday, February 28, 2010

To Each Their Own

I have abysmal taste. Ask my gay ex-boyfriend and his neighbor. They will tell you stories of my horrible, godawful taste in men, shoes, clothing, and drinks.

1.) English Bonnet movies. Masterpiece Theatre is my God. North & South; Pride & Prejudice; every version of Persuasion. Lately I've been mad about Cranford and Return to Cranford. I've been dying to get ahold of the Larkrise shows. I cannot get enough of small town England with big drama over the molehills.

2.) Country music. I'm an unabashed country music fan. And not just a modern country music fan--I love the old stuff. Like Hank William, Sr, old stuff. Long Black Veil and Green Green Grass of Home makes me cry every time I hear them; and I always laugh when I hear Saginaw, Michigan. You don't get better love songs than from a bunch of country crooners.

3.) 80s Big Hair Bands. Okay, I suppose there are some folks who can give country crooners a run for their money in love songs.

4.) The Dukes of Hazzard. Two words: Bo Duke. Two more words: Waylon Jennings. To this day, hearing the opening riff to "Good Old Boys" stops me in my tracks like a person who has been hypnotized to cluck like a chicken every time she hears the word "blue." (I don't cluck, but I am in a fog for the duration of the song.)

5.) Levi's jeans. I never feel sexier than in a pair of Levi's jeans. Not sure why because I'm sure a better cut jean is out there somewhere, but I'll never know because I think my ass looks sexiest in Levi's.

6.) Daisies. They're my favorite flower. I loathe carnations because I think they are the Flower of Death. Roses are nice, but they're kinda uptown. Daisies are the flower for a Dukes of Hazzard, country music, Levi's wearing lover.

7.) Pepsi. I can tell the difference between Coke and Pepsi, and Pepsi is superior. I believe Heaven must have soda fountains with nothing but Pepsi because God is clearly of the New Generation.

8.) Scrawny rather than brawny. I prefer my men more lanky than too muscular. Dwayne Johnson is definitely a good looking man, but the slightly weedy ones are my favorites. Especially if they're wearing Levi's and come around begging for cookies.

9.) Regency rather than Medieval. I love historicals, but I typically prefer the Regency period--even with its influx of dukes--than a knight in shining armor. Regency tends to lend itself to more rompy, humorous fiction, which is what I prefer. It's hard to laugh when your castle is about to be stolen from you.

10.) Jack Sparrow trumps Edward Cullen. Seriously, no contest.

So there you go. Some of these you may agree with; some of these you may horribly disagree; and some of these you may never have heard of at all. Whatever. The thing is we're all allowed our own list of likes and dislikes, right? This is America. We're of an age. We don't have to please anyone but ourselves at this point, right?

And we've all lived long enough to realize that if you troll about on the internet long enough, you can find a club that would probably have all the same interests as you. I'm pretty sure I could find a handful of people who liked the same things I liked. I could probably find a larger group who liked about half of what I liked. I could find a really, really large group who prefer Jack to Edward.

I know Bo'sun prefers brawny men. More power to her. That leaves more scrawny little intellectuals for me. Sin prefers angry, ANGRY music; and would be apt to ask, "Brad WHO? Oh I don't care. He probably sings something [BLEEP]." Clearly we don't have to like everything together.

I spent Friday in Barnes & Noble, touching all the books in the rows and rows of fiction. I'm sure it was the tip of the iceberg of what is available in fiction, and yet there seemed to be something for everyone. There was historical fiction set in the Revolutionary War; and contemporary fiction chick-lit where one girl goes to Italy to get over a broken heart. There was science-fiction which I skipped over entirely and couldn't tell you anything about; and there were rows and rows of the types of historicals I love to read. A lot of them in the Regency period. I'm sure a lot of them featuring dukes. There was historicals about Queen Elizabeth and Henry the VIII; novels about Joan of Kent and novels about Charles II. World War II novels. Housewives in the 1950s. Oh, and let's not forget the Navy Seals, Special Ops, or FBI novels.

I'm sure if you turned all of us loose in Barnes and Noble, we'd all walk out with something different and varied to our tastes. And all those authors are depending on that. They're depending that we all have different tastes and some of us will buy their novels. The only thing these novels really had in common was that each of these authors were passionate enough about their subject to write and revise a book about it.

A variation of Abraham Lincoln's famous line goes something like: "You can please some of the people all of the time; and you can please all of the people some of the time; but you can never please all of the people all of the time." So really you should just please yourself, and shoot for one and two. There's room in Barnes & Noble for you.

What are some of your preferences that your friends don't understand? What do you wish there was more of in fiction? And are you writing it? How is your writing going this week? (Mine is very minimal with the birthday stuff that stretched out far longer than my birthday. I'll try to have something more writing related next week!)

44 comments:

2nd Chance said...

Give me heroes that are different. Miles from the Vorkosigan Series, Mongo from George Chesbro's dwarf detective series.

Linda Hunt as Stella in Silverado and now as Hetty in NCIS LA. And Penelope Garcia (Kirsten Vangsness) on Criminal Minds. Or Brooke Elliott as Jane Bingham on Drop Dead Diva. (If you haven't seen this show...you are missing some delightful stuff!)

I like to read and see the totally non-cookie cutter heroes and heroines. And I want more of them.

Who didn't love the Susan Murphy (Ginormica) in Monsters vs. Aliens?

And I do adore the older H/H...especially mine! (I'm loving this book of mine!)

Quantum said...

Helli, I wish the Baard could have known you. I'm sure that he would have written another great comedy to add to 'Much Ado...' and the others!

Charming as always! :D

As a personal grouse,I rather wish that there were more books exploring the boundary between the paranormal and established science. I don't want more Were Wolves, Fairies or Demons. But more books exploring psychic phenomenon would be great.

Amanda Quick does a good job with her 'Arcane Society' and 'Harmony World' and Anne McCaffrey does well with 'genetically engineered dragons' and 'Telepaths'. But I think that there is a whole world just spilling off the edge of known science which could be really fascinating to explore in fiction and is not being exploited particularly well at present.

Chance does a good job with her magic witch but I feel that she may lack the nows to make plausible connection with the Lab science that forms the basis for contacting the 'real world'.

I keep coming back to this but will say it once more. Training in science to learn how the real world is constructed and what makes it tick is IMO a huge advantage to a fiction writer in all genres, but especially romance. *grin*

Maggie Robinson/Margaret Rowe said...

Love the list, but I'm a Coke girl, and if heaven has only Pepsi, I'll have to request a transfer south.

I suppose it surprises people who grew up with me in a NYC suburb that I listen almost exclusively to country music now.They are all shocked I read and write romance too (I fancied myself quite the intellectual back in the day. Sartre, anyone?Snort.). And Animal House is still my favorite movie. Sue me.

I felt a dearth of mature heroines in the historical market, so I'm writing them, altho they are still a hell of a lot younger than I am.

hal said...

Every wedding I ever went to, until I moved to the East Coast, the (usually perfectly weedy) groom wore a pair of skin tight Levi's, a tux jacket, a cowboy hat and cowboy boots. I didn't even realize tuxedos came with pants until I left Missouri. But to this day, the sight of a skinny man in Levis and cowboy boots makes me stop in my tracks. And AMEN to "Good Old Boys". God, I love that song.

I never thought of it before, but I'd bet your right, that each and every one of us would leave B&N with a different stack of book.

I've been reading a lot of romantic suspense and thrillers, and I want more emotion. More characterization. More angst. That's what I'm *trying* to write. We'll see!

Marnee said...

I love the list too. I'm with Maggie though; I like Coke better. Though I prefer diet Pepsi to diet Coke. I'm not sure why.

As for what I wanted to read and am I writing it. I think I always write what I wish I could find in the market. I'm not sure it always comes out the way I'd hoped, though.

This time, I wanted a historical heroine who seemed more "real" than some of the Disney princess heroines that seem to populate current historicals. I don't mean to disparage virginal/upstanding heroines. I love Disney movies and I love historicals like that. And definitely not to say I won't want to write a heroine like that some day, but this time, I didn't want to. I just wanted to see someone a little grittier, a little more like heroines in romantic suspense or paranormals.

Hellion said...

2nd: the only reference I recognized was Stella from Silverado--I did love her.

We do need more non-cookie-cutter heroes and heroines. (Look how well it worked for Jack Sparrow.)

And we definitely need more stories with older heroes and heroines--I think slowly but surely we're starting to get more of those.

Hellion said...

Quantum! Thank you!--I love Emma Thompson's version of Much Ado About Nothing. She and Kenneth Braughan (sp?) were hilarious in it! Beatrice and Benedick are two of my favorite Shakespeare characters.

Would an author have to know ALL science or could we just get away with a crash-course or somewhat in-depth knowledge of quantum physics to write that way?

I think an education in most all things benefits you as a writer. (And I don't mean just a formal education--self-education in stuff is just as beneficial if not more so than a formal education. Though I prefer face to face classes, being taught by someone who is passionate about the subject....)

Hellion said...

Maggie: being it's Heaven, I'm sure the fountain will provide you with whatever drink you want. Coke, champagne, H20... I told a friend I hoped Heaven had Pepsi in it, and she made a face of disgust. *LOL*

You need to write faster. Clearly 2nd is feeling the dearth of mature heroines as well. Wow, it's March 1st!--only a couple more months!!!

Dang, your Animal House reference reminds me I forgot to mention my love for the movie Talladega Nights. *LOL* I suppose loving the Dukes of Hazzard was bad enough....

Hellion said...

*LOL* Hal, I adore you! We can look for weedy, levi-clad men together then! And we can sing some Waylon Jennings while we're at it!!

I always find it interesting that suspense, thrillers (what I term: male fiction) is so devoid of emotion. It's almost like you're not allowed to have one with the other. It's like the literary equivalent of Action Flicks (usually also devoid of major emotion). I too would love more a hybrid. It IS possible to blow something up and have some emotional depth to it too. They're not mutually exclusive.

Hellion said...

Marn, I think the reason you prefer Diet Pepsi is because it doesn't taste like Coke--and it's not supposed to.

I don't drink Mountain Dew (reg) in real life. But I drink diet Mountain Dew (when I don't drink Pepsi.) I hate Diet Pepsi. And if I was given a preference between diet Pepsi and diet Coke, I'd pick diet Coke.

The grittier heroine! Well, you know the saying: it's always the bad girls who make history, so it's only fitting to write your historicals about them. :)

Bosun said...

I grew up on Pepsi then got used to Coke living in the south. I suppose I could drink either one now, but if I have my way, Heaven will provide me all the milkshakes I can drink. Without the accompanying tummy ache.

I'm afraid I write what's already out there in abundance. BUT, I'm still going to write it. LOL! I'm middle of the road, what can I say?

I loved the Dukes of Hazzard when I was growing up. But then we watched all the shows. A-Team, Remington Steele, Moonlighting, Facts of Life, Different Strokes, Hillstreet Blues, St. Elsewhere. We were totally raised on television.

Hellion said...

Heaven with milkshakes sounds perfect!!!

Don't worry, we're still going to need people to write what is already out there and beloved.

I loved Moonlighting, Facts of Life, Different Strokes...the other stuff was either on too late (and I wasn't allowed) or not my gig. There was a show that was on briefly--and the song that introduced the show was "Holding Out for a Hero"--and he was some special ops guy. I don't remember what the show was called though.

2nd Chance said...

Q - Try Sharon Shinn's Archangel series. Chesbro's Mongo series, though a mystery series, is steeped in scientific possiblities. He always insisted that even if Mongo was up against some very strange things, it was always traced back to science.

Even Jim Butcher's The Dresden Files has a real scientific flare to the magic...

Because I'm with you, I like things that skate the edge of scientific discoveries. I don't have the brain to find the bits to weave into mine, though I try to infer there is science out there...even if I don't get it!

Pepsi...from Taco Bell. They seem to be the only chain I've been to that get the proportions right!

Bosun said...

Chance - I'm pretty sure if you just pop open a can, you'd get the right proportions. :)

Wasn't that theme song for one show where the guy was actually a superhero? He wore the goofy red and blue tights get up and everything.

Hellion said...

If I'm not around much today--this week, this month--please don't think I've died. Today's an application deadline and I'm getting random emails and phone calls ALL THE TIME. The teachers of America, folks.

I'm sorry I didn't have a better topic today for you guys to talk amongst yourselves.... I'll try to do better for next week!

Bosun said...

I think winter has lolled everyone into a coma so it wouldn't matter what topic we put up here right now. Parts of the northeast still don't even have power. It's like Mother Nature is royally pissed off and is taking it out on the whole planet.

Marnee Jo said...

Oh, PS, i forgot to answer how writing went last week. I did alright; 4500 words.

Hope you had a good birthday too. :) I love when birthday celebrations move into extra days. I think we deserve more days as we get older.

Irisheyes said...

I'm right there with ya on the English Bonnet movies - just watched my DVRd Cranford and Return to Cranford. Just can't get enough of those BBC books to movies.

Kind of just found Country music since having my kids. It was outlawed in my mostly rock n' roll household growing up. I don't know if I could be a card carrying Country Music fan since I listen to mostly Country/Pop - Rascall Flatts, Taylor Swift, Keith Urban.

Never got into the 80s Big Hair Bands or The Dukes of Hazzard, but Levi’s jeans are the only ones I wear. For some reason they fit better than any other pair I've tried.

Any flower is okay with me. If I had the room and the money I'd get one of those huge English gardens planted in my backyard. I couldn't keep it thriving to safe my life, though, so I suppose I'd have to hire a gardner too!

Don't drink pop but I did grow up in a Pepsi household, never stocked Coke. Married my DH and was introduced to a whole new world of carbonated beverages. He bought something different every week (Shasta, Dr. Pepper, Ginger Ale, Crush, Pepsi, Coke, RC). Marn, he likes Coke but will only drink Pepsi if it has to be diet. Must be something to that.

I grew up with a bunch of scrawny, no butt Irishmen and would rather brawny or at least a small layer of muscle over the bones.

I like both Regency and Medieval but have been drawn more to Regency in the past couple of years. I was having a hard time finding really good medievals - the alpha heroes I was finding were very one dimensional - all mean, arrogant and not very chivalrous.

Definitely Jack Sparrow! No contest.

And you are right about writing to what you are looking for - I think mine would be a cross between women's fiction and romance. I LOVE series and I like romances that involve community and all the different relationships in a peron's life. I'm not sure how popular it is, but I have so many people populating my story (and my head) it would be hard to do a stand alone.

Di R said...

Hellion~ I think we could be sisters. I found myself nodding along with your blog today. I don't wear Levi's, but maybe I should try them. :)

As for writing, I had 7 pages for my critique group. Then my kids had Thursday off and Friday was a snow day. Added to that I hosted a birthday party for my great-nephew.

Q~Have you tried Christine Feehan's 'Mind' serious or Jamie Rush's Darkness series the first 2 are out now and the third is due out in May.

Di

Janga said...

If we deserve more celebratory days as we get older, my celebration should last at least six weeks. :)

I like your topic, Hellie. I'm an academic by profession who shares your love of romance novels and country music. I can certainly identify with your having people question your tastes.

I hope all earthly beverages pale in comparison to celestial libations, but my grandmothers would haunt me if I ever suggested that upstart Pepsi was ever preferable to Co'cola.

Irisheyes said...

I was so wrapped up in your list, Hellie, I didn't answer your first question. LOL

The 2 main things that most people I'm with all the time don't understand about me is that my drink of choice is always water and I would rather read than do just about anything else, including *gasp* watch TV.

Hellion said...

I do prefer Pepsi from Taco Bell (or QuickTrip)--fountain soda is usually sweeter than from a can. (Though Pepsi is enough to rot your teeth with one sip--I mean, really, you need it that much more concentrated?)

Bosun said...

People are always amazed at what I WON'T eat. Like vegetables in general. Or most anything ethnic. Anything with cheese that isn't Italian. The list goes on and on.

Hellion said...

Yeah, Marn for your word count! That's worth singing about!! I think I only got 250 words. *LOL* It was pathetic!!!

Hellion said...

Can we blame Mother Nature for being royally pissed?

Hellion said...

Irish, my friend Pam wasn't able to get daisies for my birthday so she got me the most beautiful pink tulips! Gorgeous! I love them!

I love ginger ale...and I love women's fiction crossed with romance!! The best kind! I think Sophia Kinsella and Hester Brown are like that (more Bridget Jones like), but you love the Robin Carr books, right? That's who you'd like to grow up to be??

Hellion said...

Di, huzzah for having 7 pages for your critique group! I bet they were the best pages ever!! :) (That's what I have to tell myself before I share mine. I mean, I tell the group they're crap, but inwardly I lie and say they're great so I will press the send button.)

Definitely try a pair of levi's at least once. *LOL* I love 515s.

Hellion said...

Irish, it boggles my mind people could PREFER water. Come on! *LOL* But to each their own!! More polluted water (Pepsi) for the rest of us.

Hellion said...

Janga, I think eventually I'll extend my birthday festivities to 6 weeks long. Just wait. *LOL* I don't know how I preferred Pepsi to Coke (Dad wasn't exactly faithful--and we had lots of RC cola growing up), but I do. Just prefer the taste. The commercials were always dumb. *LOL*

Aren't academics such strange snobs? You know they're hiding skeletons in their closet. *LOL* I have a Math faculty who loves country music--but he must keep it secret because he only talks to me in a whisper. *LOL* "You like The Mavericks? I love the Mavericks!"

I don't think academics can help it. They're taught they're supposed to be higher brow than the rest of us.

Hellion said...

Bo'sun it boggles me because I love eating...so it's hard for me to think of a place to eat that isn't completely Blah. But I've never starved while hanging around you, so we've clearly worked out places we can eat together.

Bosun said...

That's why I never understand why people get bent. I'll go pretty much wherever, I just might not eat anything. But I won't whine or make you feel bad. Usually when you go out with friends, it's for the company anyway. Unless I was pouting and sighing every few minutes, I don't see the problem with me choosing to abstain from the menu. LOL!

And I prefer water too. Though I've bought a large bottle recently to keep refilling here at work and I'm pretty sure I've drank enough water to sink this entire ship.

Irisheyes said...

When I was a teenager and little anxiety ridden (okay, a lot anxiety ridden), anyway the carbonation would send my system into an uproar. I'd down a glass of Pepsi with a Maalox chaser. Then I tried Pepsi and milk (ala Laverne DiFazio), but that ended when I got off milk, too! TMI, I know... water was the only safe choice for awhile and just became a habit.

The strange thing was going to the bars with all my friends. The guys would go get rounds and it would be... gin & 7, beer, rum and coke, water? Some of them wouldn't even get me my water - too embarrassed. That's when I had an inkling the DH was for me - never blinked an eye and always remembered (sometimes even surprised me with a lemon wedge).

Irisheyes said...

I have a brother with a really nasty Pepsi habit. We all joke about it - he's never had a drop of alochol but can't get through the day without 3-4 Pepsis, at least.

Bosun said...

Irish - That's what happened to me. Grew up on Pepsi and Cherry Kool Aid (with lots of sugar!) and by the time I was 21, couldn't take the carbonation. Oddly enough, I could still drink beer. Until a couple years ago when the gall bladder came out. Now it all bothers me.

So water became the only option and I got used to it. But I can tell the difference in different waters, which sounds strange. I'll take Dasani over Aquafina anyday, but Deer Park is really the best. :) (Though I have a Britta filter in my house and as long as you change the filter regularly, it's not bad.)

Hellion said...

I think I get unnerved if someone else isn't eating with me because I was raised it wasn't polite to eat in front of people. And if I was with someone I didn't know well, I wouldn't be keen to be shoveling food in my mouth while you played with a napkin. (We'd be fine. I'd shovel away.)

Hellion said...

Irish, that's completely my Pepsi habit! *LOL* Or was. Now it's mostly diet soda rather than the real thing. Though I had some "real" stuff on Saturday, and you would have though I was having the greatest orgasm ever, just drinking it. (Well, it was GOOD.)

Irisheyes said...

That’s why I never understand why people get bent. I’ll go pretty much wherever, I just might not eat anything. But I won’t whine or make you feel bad. Usually when you go out with friends, it’s for the company anyway. Unless I was pouting and sighing every few minutes, I don’t see the problem with me choosing to abstain from the menu. LOL!

I'm the same way - with all the goofy food/drink allergies and whatnot I never comment on what someone is or isn't eating or drinking. Like you said it's usually all about the company anyway.

Bosun said...

I get that it's more comfortable if the other person is sharing with you. Wouldn't enjoy the cheese dip as much if Sin wasn't sitting across the table moaning about it too. LOL!

And I will try my darndest to find SOMETHING on the menu to nibble on. Even if I have to resort to the kids menu. LOL! But there are restaurants I won't bother going to, because it would be a waste of time. And I don't mind others going without me. It's my problem, not theirs.

Irisheyes said...

I never thought of that, Hellie. It would seem sort of rude to eat while others weren't. I always looked at it a different way, especially with the alcohol. I compared it to peer pressure in HS. We still have friends we go out with who are constantly trying to get me to eat, drink and swear like a truck driver. It was definitely like being in HS again. I'm used to them now, but it was pretty annoying at first.

Terr, that is so funny. I can tell the difference in waters too. I'm not that crazy about Dasani but I like Ice Mountain and the stuff that comes out of my refrigerator, which has a filter on it.

Irisheyes said...

Yeah, Hellie, we didn't think anything of it until he tried to quit. Then, of course, everyone knew his pain! He's the baby and a bit of a hypocondriac. Now we all watch the way he consumes the stuff. I was being kind with the 3-4 a day. I'm sure it's double that and it's not diet.

Hellion said...

Yeah, mine was double too. *LOL*

Dad and Mom were very insistent not to eat in front of other people. (Mind you, they grew up in the Depression...soooo they're products of their time too.) Very annoying not to be able to eat popsicles if I had to share them with all the other nieces OR wait until the little beggars left. You'd think this would have taught me the value of sharing and being giving, and that is SOOoooo not the case. I share with who I want to share with and no one else. *LOL*

Irisheyes said...

...but you love the Robin Carr books, right? That’s who you’d like to grow up to be??

LOL. Probably a cross between Susan Elizabeth Phillips and Robyn Carr.

Quantum said...

Helli, I watched most of the Shakespeare plays on the London stage while studying or researching at the University. 'Much Ado about nothing' was always my favourite, particularly Beatrice!

Physics is the Queen of the sciences as it underpins all of the others, and Quantum Theory is the pinnacle of our Physics achievements so yes I advise trying to master the basic ideas of Quantum Theory. 8)

What interesting comments today! AND I got some book recommendations. Many thanks to Di and Chance. I will definitely take a look at the books mentioned. :D

Hellion said...

"Sigh no more, ladies, sigh no more,
Men were deceivers ever,-
One foot in sea and one on shore,
To one thing constant never."


Much Ado has a whole lot of quotables. *LOL* But I think my "favorite" line is from As You Like It, with Rosalind, who says, she says I am not fair and I lack manners; she calls me proud and says she would not love me were men as rare as phoenix.

I've wanted to say that a time or two.