tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416913236621309814.post2352190550504311986..comments2023-05-24T08:06:43.882-04:00Comments on Romance Writer's Revenge: Out of OrderTerri Osburnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17176989488447450585noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416913236621309814.post-17119664537729887382012-03-24T02:27:38.937-04:002012-03-24T02:27:38.937-04:00The chakras are supposed to store memories and you...The chakras are supposed to store memories and your history with earliest memories at the deepest (seventh) level, so massaging the chakras might help your memory difficulties. I was thinking more of the crown and third eye chakras for writer's block, but they are all inter-connected and connected to the aura. Some would say that they are also connected to the divine.<br /><br />So, my dear, I think I can say that my treatment would spruce up your aura, leave you tingling all over with a warm pleasurable feeling, and of course get you back writing like there's no tomorrow! LOLQuantumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08686409685564115213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416913236621309814.post-89673618703879626932012-03-23T16:59:12.205-04:002012-03-23T16:59:12.205-04:00Ooooh! An aural massage! I'd love that! I had ...Ooooh! An aural massage! I'd love that! I had an actual physical massage on Tuesday and my therapist does some of that. Then a Bowen body treatment yesterday... Yes, an aural massage would be divine!<br /><br />And it's okay, I'm a married lady, we can flirt without risk, as Terri states!Maureenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01517092592545660754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416913236621309814.post-20081142656149887482012-03-23T15:22:25.703-04:002012-03-23T15:22:25.703-04:00Terri, You always could break through my resistanc...Terri, You always could break through my resistance! *smile*Quantumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08686409685564115213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416913236621309814.post-80620837974856173532012-03-23T15:10:27.830-04:002012-03-23T15:10:27.830-04:00This is a risk-free flirting zone, Q. Flirt away!
...This is a risk-free flirting zone, Q. Flirt away!<br /><br />Looking up Ms. Eden's books now.Terri Osburnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17176989488447450585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416913236621309814.post-20775354749051853432012-03-23T15:04:57.301-04:002012-03-23T15:04:57.301-04:00Terri: I love this idea of energies though. I'...<i> Terri: I love this idea of energies though. I'm making a note to look up this Donna person's book. Thanks, Q! </i><br /><br />Terri, Donna Eden is a leader in the field and her book is becoming a classic!<br /><br /><i> Maureen: Horizontal on your couch, eh?<br />(Is he flirting with me?) </i><br /><br />Maureen, I'm a married English Gentleman!<br />The Donna Eden technique (similar to Reiki) is best done with the guinea pig ... er patient, lying flat. The hands then move in a circular motion clockwise and anticlockwise about 3 inches above the body for 10-15 mins per chakra. <br /><br />I fear my flirting days may be over! LOLQuantumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08686409685564115213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416913236621309814.post-48339540746629855232012-03-23T14:24:55.956-04:002012-03-23T14:24:55.956-04:00Hels! Yes, of course I am a linear writer. Most of...Hels! Yes, of course I am a linear writer. Most of the time. But this really got me unstuck. I didn't continue or intend to continue writing with this method. I like starting at the beginning and going to the end... But! When I'm stuck? This helped me get going!Maureenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01517092592545660754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416913236621309814.post-91986089042942431202012-03-23T14:05:15.684-04:002012-03-23T14:05:15.684-04:00Pat, you sorta prewrite from the sounds of it. And...Pat, you sorta prewrite from the sounds of it. And yeah, falling in love with something that later won't fit? Been there, done that.<br /><br />I'm stubborn though and am likely to haul out the biggest hammer and MAKE it work... Hee, hee...<br /><br />Irish, you're a quilter, I bet... <br /><br />Terri - looking forward to playing the lab rat for that blog!Maureenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01517092592545660754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416913236621309814.post-18988490569451388042012-03-23T13:11:46.457-04:002012-03-23T13:11:46.457-04:00The muse can be contrary, can't she? LOL!
I&#...The muse can be contrary, can't she? LOL!<br /><br />I'm glad to hear you both mention the idea of getting too attached. I'm adding that idea to my ecourse stuff so it's good to know I have real life writers to back it up! (And not just me. *g*)Terri Osburnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17176989488447450585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416913236621309814.post-52741955611385485272012-03-23T13:09:58.157-04:002012-03-23T13:09:58.157-04:00I never write in order. I always have different s...I never write in order. I always have different scenes from different times throughout the story pop into my head. Like Janga said, the tough part is going to be piecing them all together. <br /><br />Like P.Kirby, I'm afraid that I'm too attached to the random stuff that comes to me and I may not be able to ditch it if need be. You know... trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. We'll see when the time comes.<br /><br />It's funny that I write like that because everything else in my life is pretty orderly. I like order and am a happier person without chaos. Go figure!irisheyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11730974733998991144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416913236621309814.post-8587718003241681972012-03-23T12:57:45.793-04:002012-03-23T12:57:45.793-04:00Terri: Yes.
Looking back at all my projects, inclu...Terri: Yes.<br />Looking back at all my projects, including unfinished stuff and, cough, fan fiction, I see this pattern. I get a scene in my head; not necessarily the first scene; often a big emotional or action scene, and it gets written. I think this is how most of my characters are born. Earlier chapters happen only after I get a better idea where the hell the story is going.<br /><br />The biggest problem, early on, for me, was that I'd get too attached to some of these snippets, and feel like I absolutely had to keep them in the story. I now take the approach that nothing is sacred, everything I write in the WIP, no matter how cute the dialogue or lovely the description, can end up on the cutting room floor. The later chapters could ditched simply because I took the plot in a different direction.P. Kirbyhttp://www.patriciakirby.com/blog/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416913236621309814.post-60092452456797874192012-03-23T12:20:57.575-04:002012-03-23T12:20:57.575-04:00See, and this works for you! I do find getting the...See, and this works for you! I do find getting the details right can get in the way. I wrote a heavy emotional scene the other day and couldn't remember the name of Ria's husband...so I called him Andrew. I don't think that was his name, but when I go back through the book once I hit that 'The End' place, I'll slip back in and correct those things.<br /><br />Getting the geography right is driving me nuts. It's set on the east Coast and I had Boston south of New York for awhile. Fixed that, then I had Philadelphia on the way to New York, going south...and had to change that! I need a map of the east coast next to me. I can bring one up my phone but it's really small... And I have to keep in mind in my world, the sea level has risen to the extent that a lot of the coastal areas have moved inland due to the strength of the tides...<br /><br />ARGH!<br /><br />All this as my memory is melting out my ears...Maureenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01517092592545660754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416913236621309814.post-85566290362862853742012-03-23T12:19:41.183-04:002012-03-23T12:19:41.183-04:00My linear brain is amazed by all this hopping arou...My linear brain is amazed by all this hopping around. And telling me, "Don't even think about it."<br /><br />Pat - Did you always write that way or did this idea come along after you'd been writing for a while? I'm interested in what activates these kinds of choices and changes in the process.Terri Osburnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17176989488447450585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416913236621309814.post-51710423253002486762012-03-23T12:18:18.622-04:002012-03-23T12:18:18.622-04:00Mo, I thought you'd said you were more of a li...Mo, I thought you'd said you were more of a linear writer. The funniest thing about this blog is how we'll write a blog saying we do things JUST THIS WAY and we CAN'T POSSIBLY do them the other way. Then 6 months or a year will pass, and I swear to you every one of us have done this, we will do the thing we couldn't possibly and it actually worked that time. <br /><br />I don't think any of these things work ALL THE TIME, but the goal is to just keep writing, no matter what that takes. :)Hellie Sinclairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03933713255844695337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416913236621309814.post-41780421459099833012012-03-23T12:15:50.946-04:002012-03-23T12:15:50.946-04:00The only way I've been able to keep moving for...The only way I've been able to keep moving forward in my writing is to sometimes write <br /><br />(insert a scene here about x and x doing x) <br /><br />and then writing what is coming to me at the time. <br /><br />I also will input reminders to check facts, etc if I know what might happen in a scene I skipped might affect the current scene. (Check and make sure Ronnie really does forget her purse at the hospital) for example. <br /><br />I have these snippets writen here and there throughout the WIP just waiting for the revision phase.Scapegoatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416913236621309814.post-82572904803616675112012-03-23T11:53:22.394-04:002012-03-23T11:53:22.394-04:00Pat! Love that you take the approach of writing wh...Pat! Love that you take the approach of writing what works when it works, period. That seems to me more in line with your artistic approach.<br /><br />I'm trying to stick to a 'and then' approach, save for when I get stuck. Or if some scene pops into existance from out of nowhere...write it down. Sometimes just notes will work, but I don't trust my memory right now. Why do detailed notes? Just write the scene! It isn't written in blood and I can skip-dip around it once I catch up to it... ;-)Maureenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01517092592545660754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416913236621309814.post-25294794224470333292012-03-23T11:51:13.628-04:002012-03-23T11:51:13.628-04:00Hellion, that is sorta how I slid into trying this...Hellion, that is sorta how I slid into trying this. Challeged to write a scene at my local RWA meeting, I wrote one that doesn't occur until much later...and it was so freeing and the most words I'd written in months...that sorta converted me as a believer.<br /><br />I don't know that I would want to write an entire book this way...but at least it's opening me up to thinking outside of linnear.Maureenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01517092592545660754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416913236621309814.post-1786341363126733182012-03-23T11:49:18.471-04:002012-03-23T11:49:18.471-04:00Donnaroo, I keept being told it gets better. If it...Donnaroo, I keept being told it gets better. If it doesn't, I'm going after some people with a great big ax.<br /><br />If I remember who said it.<br /><br />I agree, if something is working, don't break it and try something new. But wow, if something isn't working, then take a turn at something new!Maureenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01517092592545660754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416913236621309814.post-31347045567120972672012-03-23T11:31:07.767-04:002012-03-23T11:31:07.767-04:00Written in current WIP: Prologue, Ch1, Ch2, Ch3 (p...Written in current WIP: Prologue, Ch1, Ch2, Ch3 (partial, written yesterday), Ch4 (partial, missing transitions), Ch5 (missing transitions), plus a section called "Chapters Much Later," consisting of scenes (dialogue snippets) that came to mind and had to be written. Today, I'm working on more "later stuff" as well as emotional stuff to work into Ch3 or 4.<br /><br />I write the way movie makers film. Out of order. It's the only thing that works for me. If my energy is directed at a scene much later, better to write it while I'm interested. When I'm bored with a scene, it shows. Writing the later stuff, often reveals a truth about earlier interactions.<br /><br />But ... I *really* like revision. This is probably not an approach for someone who likes to have a relatively "clean" first draft.P. Kirbyhttp://www.patriciakirby.com/blog/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416913236621309814.post-3348503554985968222012-03-23T10:58:26.345-04:002012-03-23T10:58:26.345-04:00My memory is not hot now. I'm going to be one ...My memory is not hot now. I'm going to be one dotty older person sooner than I think. Damn.<br /><br />I don't like to write out of order, I prefer linear. But I do have a story I'm working on that we did madwrites for. Where you had to include a sentence or a word or a theme? And I just wrote scenes about that book that I really, really liked. I was possibly working on that story at the time of the madwrite stage, but I don't think so. *LOL* <br /><br />Anyway those are the scenes that are out of order. The others are more linear. <br /><br />I've finally sat down and done a write through like a synopsis of sorts and wrote to the end. It was amazing. I had never done that with a story; I usually don't know. But this one I did. That's cool. <br /><br />I'm struggling with my beginning. I know I will have to rewrite it...but I obsessed with starting out on the right foot, making it a good start anyway. If it starts out dull I'm afraid it'll continue that way.Hellie Sinclairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03933713255844695337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416913236621309814.post-50382696066374372552012-03-23T10:54:32.424-04:002012-03-23T10:54:32.424-04:00Maureen, I was told the memory thing would get bet...Maureen, I was told the memory thing would get better as you get through the process -- but now I think THEY LIED. LOL It's probably better, but not at the same levels it used to be. *sigh*<br /><br />I think it's good to be open to trying new ways. And if the old ways aren't producing, it only makes sense to change up the routine. :) Just when I think, "Aha! This will work for me forever!", it doesn't. LOL So I guess as writers we just have to keep adjusting and morphing and doing whatever gets the stories onto the page.Donna Cummingshttp://www.allaboutthewriting.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416913236621309814.post-75126003793397813182012-03-23T10:53:49.682-04:002012-03-23T10:53:49.682-04:00Okay, crew, we're moving slow this morning. I&...Okay, crew, we're moving slow this morning. I'm off to walk the dog and hit my Starbucks. Be back in a bit.Maureenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01517092592545660754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416913236621309814.post-16822428557961558442012-03-23T10:20:07.002-04:002012-03-23T10:20:07.002-04:00Janga - The book doesn't come with the class, ...Janga - The book doesn't come with the class, but I highly recommend buying it. She covers a great deal of the material in the class, but I read the book as we hit things and the class just can't cover everything in the book. But she's great about answering questions and helping you figure out what is at the heart of the procrastination snarl!<br /><br />I can see writing poetry out of order... ;-)Maureenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01517092592545660754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416913236621309814.post-25117265853747721542012-03-23T10:17:56.174-04:002012-03-23T10:17:56.174-04:00Terri - I really fought this idea, but then I real...Terri - I really fought this idea, but then I realized I was losing scenes, bits of dialogue, etc. Good stuff!<br /><br />I think it's all about writing them down and getting the energy level up again, then maybe getting back to the 'correct' order of things and writing as if that scene up there doesn't exist. When I get to it, it stays untouched or it is changed to fit how I got there. <br /><br />You know, I liken it to eating desert first. Something I'm enthusiastic about to get the juices flowing...so I'll enjoy dinner more!Maureenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01517092592545660754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416913236621309814.post-3175167603441063952012-03-23T10:14:41.842-04:002012-03-23T10:14:41.842-04:00Horizontal on your couch, eh?
(Is he flirting wit...Horizontal on your couch, eh?<br /><br />(Is he flirting with me?)<br /><br />That aside, I'm sure it is a matter of blocked energy. Chakras, Meridians, Grids (?). I have simply had no will to get the words out and when I did it sounded like I was stuttering....<br /><br />But it's getting better! And I think changing it up and tossing out these out of order scenes made a real difference!Maureenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01517092592545660754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-416913236621309814.post-60302246146083090892012-03-23T10:14:03.018-04:002012-03-23T10:14:03.018-04:00Janga - HOW do you write poetry out of order??Janga - HOW do you write poetry out of order??Terri Osburnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17176989488447450585noreply@blogger.com